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	<title>Comments on: How do you define project success?</title>
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		<title>By: Charles Troger</title>
		<link>http://volunteervictoria.bc.ca/blog/2010/01/15/how-do-you-define-project-success/comment-page-1/#comment-4064</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Troger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PM Hut, thanks very much for weighing in on the topic of the triple constraints.  I know that the Project Management Institute (PMI - www.pmi.org) has dropped mention of them in the latest release of the PMBOK.  I am sure you would agree however that the PMBOK is very much about scope, time, cost and quality.  I find the graphic relationship showing the scope of a project being further defined and clarified by our understanding of the triple constraints a particularly effective instructional tool. 

 

 On the topic of project management success versus project success I would love to hear more.  E-mail me at charlestroger@shaw.ca.  I have been managing projects for thirty years and must admit that usually it is pretty hard to separate the one from the other, and hard to achieve one without the other.  This short article was designed to stimulate thought and discussion about the importance of project management in the not for profit sector, obviously it has!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PM Hut, thanks very much for weighing in on the topic of the triple constraints.  I know that the Project Management Institute (PMI &#8211; <a href="http://www.pmi.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.pmi.org</a>) has dropped mention of them in the latest release of the PMBOK.  I am sure you would agree however that the PMBOK is very much about scope, time, cost and quality.  I find the graphic relationship showing the scope of a project being further defined and clarified by our understanding of the triple constraints a particularly effective instructional tool. </p>
<p> On the topic of project management success versus project success I would love to hear more.  E-mail me at <a href="mailto:charlestroger@shaw.ca">charlestroger@shaw.ca</a>.  I have been managing projects for thirty years and must admit that usually it is pretty hard to separate the one from the other, and hard to achieve one without the other.  This short article was designed to stimulate thought and discussion about the importance of project management in the not for profit sector, obviously it has!</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://volunteervictoria.bc.ca/blog/2010/01/15/how-do-you-define-project-success/comment-page-1/#comment-4062</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,
Thanks so much for commenting on the post - we will connect with Charles and will follow up on your thoughts. Thanks again and take care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,<br />
Thanks so much for commenting on the post &#8211; we will connect with Charles and will follow up on your thoughts. Thanks again and take care!</p>
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		<title>By: PM Hut</title>
		<link>http://volunteervictoria.bc.ca/blog/2010/01/15/how-do-you-define-project-success/comment-page-1/#comment-4060</link>
		<dc:creator>PM Hut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Charles,

As someone highly involved in Project Management (I run a Project Management website), I would like to clarify 2 things:

The project triangle above &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.pmhut.com/the-death-of-the-project-management-triangle&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;is dead&lt;/a&gt;, PMI killed it in their last revision of the PMBOK.

As for the definition of Project Success, I think what you&#039;re defining is Project Management success, which is completely &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.pmhut.com/differentiating-between-project-success-and-project-management-success&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;different from project success&lt;/a&gt;. Project Management success is being on time, on budget, and on scope, while project success is having a usable product at the end with a good ROI.

Hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charles,</p>
<p>As someone highly involved in Project Management (I run a Project Management website), I would like to clarify 2 things:</p>
<p>The project triangle above <a href='http://www.pmhut.com/the-death-of-the-project-management-triangle' rel="nofollow">is dead</a>, PMI killed it in their last revision of the PMBOK.</p>
<p>As for the definition of Project Success, I think what you&#8217;re defining is Project Management success, which is completely <a href='http://www.pmhut.com/differentiating-between-project-success-and-project-management-success' rel="nofollow">different from project success</a>. Project Management success is being on time, on budget, and on scope, while project success is having a usable product at the end with a good ROI.</p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
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